Permission Slips - Ep1 - Susie Chau, Carpe Diem Traveler - Permission to make more time for YOU!

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In this episode:

Susie Chau, Carpe Diem Traveler

A must-listen if you’re struggling to prioritize travel, self-care, and just slowing down to smell the roses.

- Learn how travel can transform your life and your business
- Learn why taking risks can be worth it
- The number one regret? Letting your personal dreams go

In this inspiring chat, travel expert Susie Chau shares how taking risks and prioritizing intentional travel transformed her life and business. She discusses overcoming "productivity guilt" and encourages women to give themselves permission to travel now, not later.

Susie and host Anna Fishman explore the importance of making time for personal dreams, balancing work, and embracing meaningful experiences. Perfect for anyone looking to prioritize self-care through travel!

#TravelInspiration #WomenInBusiness #IntentionalTravel #ProductivityGuilt #SabbaticalTravel #SelfCare

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Transcript

Anna Fishman: 0:03

Hi, everybody! I am so excited to do our very 1st interview in this series of permission slips, interviews, and you'll learn more about why we're calling it that way. But for now I am so happy and excited to introduce you to an old friend, Susie Chow, from Carpentian travelers. Susie, thank you so much for taking the time to chat with us. Thank you.

Susie Chau: 0:25

You. I'm excited to be here.

Anna Fishman: 0:27

Absolutely. It's been a while since we chatted, and I know you are doing a lot of interesting things in your business and your travel business, and then your new business that you'll share with us. But I love your story. I love hearing like about your travels. I know. Sometimes we like reconnect like, Hey, you're in Paris. And I'm in Spain, like, what are you guys doing with the kids and things like that? So that's that's really nice to to touch base on. But specifically, today, I wanted to talk about, how do we make more time for ourselves? For travel and for just well-being? I know you have a lot of experience doing that. The latest thing that caught my eye was, oh, Susie's taking 31 days in like last 2 months. I'm like, Okay, I need to chat with her because I need to take more days off, but also on the grander scale. I know you took a whole year off Sabbatical, and I think a lot of the ladies in our group can certainly benefit from taking some time off for themselves. So, Susie, can you tell us a little bit about your traveling? And just you know just who is Susan a little bit about you?

Susie Chau: 1:28

Yes, yes. Well, thanks again for having me. I started my business in 2016, but before that I was a management consultant for 13 years. So a very, you know, high stress, high pressure type of job. And that's what I, you know, came out of college. I became a consultant, because that's what I thought I was supposed to do. You know, I followed up until that Sabbatical I was very much on the path that society says is the right one, which is, you know, go to school, get good grades, get a good job, and then your life will be made. And I entered this job. And I said, This is it. There's nothing else. I just really wasn't feeling fulfilled, and I was very stressed out by this job. And there's a bit of a turning lemons into lemonade with the Sabbatical in that. My husband ended up losing his job because of an acquisition, and we decided that we didn't want to relocate. So I pretty much said to him, You can find a new job now, or you can find a new job later, because I saw this as a golden opportunity to shake things up, and what I call the Sabbatical seed was planted many, many years ago, when I was hopping from hostel to hostel in my twenties. That was really my 1st experience traveling abroad, and I would meet these people that were traveling for. you know, months or years at a time, and I thought that that was crazy, especially, you know, growing up as an American. That is absolutely not something that is normal by any stretch of the imagination. I had one conversation in Argentina. and I was so proud that my friend and I, we were traveling for 2 whole weeks in Argentina, and when I told him how you know the the natural question, how long you traveling for 2 weeks with a big smile on my face, and he goes only 2 weeks like how you're barely scratching the surface. And he was traveling for however many months he was traveling, for I don't even remember but that planted the seed that oh, you know what people do this. It's a thing but I never identified as somebody who could do that, you know, because I was in my buttoned up corporate professional job. And you know, so those hippies is kind of in my head. Those are the people who do this, and so I couldn't quite see myself doing that. But then, when this opportunity presented itself with my husband, it was just one of those things that, like a lightning bolt moment like this is your chance. This was before kids. We were renting an apartment in Chicago, and we ended up. It took a while to convince my husband that's a whole other story, but finally got him on board with the idea. and we traveled for a year, and I think the most shocking thing that people find out is, you know, because everybody says, Oh, that sounds amazing. I would love to do that, but I could never. and one of the big things that holds them back is thinking that this was, you know, had to be like a million dollar trip or something. Well, I will preface this to say that we were not staying at the 4 Seasons for a year. You know we were very much on a budget. But, all things considered, we went to all 7 continents. and that cost just less than simply living in Chicago for a year. because we were just taking our normal expenses, and instead of rent that went towards, you know, housing around the world, and instead of a car payment that, you know, is some flights, and you know we use lots of other tricks and tools and things. To to balance out costs. But it's very, very doable. It doesn't have to be expensive. And so that's a point that I just wanted to get out in the open. 1st and foremost, travel doesn't have to be expensive. It certainly can but it doesn't have to be. And once I returned back home I went back to my consulting job because I got a leave of absence for that. And then I realized that I needed to start my business. So the Sabbatical is what you know. That 1st leap of, you know, departing from the beaten path of what you know I was supposed to do. and I realized in taking that one leap I proved to myself that not only can I do these things, but life is so much better on the other side of taking that risk, you know, building up that courage to do the thing that you really want to do, and that you know those thoughts that stay in the back of your head until you do that. You know they're going to exist there and you know. So for me, starting a business was something that I never really thought that I would do. But people were coming to me for questions on travel, anyway, I said, well, I may as well make some money doing this, and I had a passion for helping people explore the world in a very, you know, deep and intentional way in the way that that I had experienced the world. And so I wanted to share that and serve others to help them do that. And the latest thing, as you mentioned Anna as I, you know, really focused in on Sabbatical travel and intentional travel. I realized that the same types of processes that I help people within planning these, you know, more very meaningful trips can be applied to everyday life, too. So I took a course this winter in transformational travel, and you know we got to learn principles and and some tactics to. you know, help seed that transformation or the change in people. And I said, Well, you know, 95% of this could be, you know, just transferred into your daily routine. And so I really dug into that more. And I'm starting a new course all around that for women business owners. So that is kind of my my way of arriving here. And you know to us reconnecting just recently about kind of the struggles with time, and, you know, never feeling like we have enough and just feeling like we're always chasing our tails and just can't get to everything. And we wish we could clone ourselves. And that's, you know, a very real problem. And I think that kind of gets in the way of us pursuing these bigger dreams like taking the big trip and doing the things that we want, because we feel like we can't. And we don't have enough time. So we're just running around in that that hamster wheel.

Anna Fishman: 8:44

No, a hundred percent I can relate to so many things and so many different ideas pop into my head as I'm listening to your story. and to how you just kind of like leaned in into what life was throwing at you. This is amazing, like I'm lately, I think I don't know. Maybe, as I'm getting older and wiser, like, I'm just learning to lean in more into like what comes my way versus fighting it. And I feel like the most the beautiful and interesting things happen to me when I actually like lean in when I like, let it happen naturally. But going back to to the point of, you know, making the time and not never having enough time. You. Time is one resource we cannot make more of. We can always make more money. We can always make more food. And like, we can always make more emails right? But we cannot make more. Time. Time has to be our most precious resource that we should treat it that way. And you know I'm now in my small group travel for women business. and also the custom, travel, business, because travel is travel, and people want to take time and and disconnect from the everyday life. But I hear so often, especially women. And that's why I'm I'm doing these series of permission slips. Because I feel like we need to give ourselves that permission to take the time off like we have this constant. I think you called it productivity guilt on that amazing webinar that I took with you. We have this Productivity Guild, that look we have to constantly produce and do something that taking a break is like is a bad thing to do, and we can never give ourselves an hour or a week or a month off, because we need to. We need to produce. We need to do things. And I see this all the time. I'll share like a new, exciting trip that I'm doing for my women travelers and so many women. Say, you know, this looks amazing. But I'm still traveling. I'm waiting to retire to take trips like this. and then, like I just got chills like that breaks my heart. I'm like, no, don't wait to retire. Retirement is so far, even if it's a year where don't wait just like take, because that retirement is not guaranteed that your health is not guaranteed that year from now or 20 years from now, like your. The financial situation that you will be in is not guaranteed that you'll be able to take that time. So when I hear people say like, Oh, you know, like one day, I will go to Italy. I'm like no, you will not go one day to Italy, because that day, like I always say, this cheesy thing that one day is not a day on the calendar. If you're telling me you have a plan, and it's going to be in 10 years or in 5 years, or in 5 days, whatever that magic day on the calendar that one day that you're going to go to Italy. I believe you. But if you're just like Oh, you know, there's not enough time, not enough money. I was like, Oh, my God, like, how can we like teach more women to give ourselves permission to take that time and take that money and do what we actually want to do without feeling guilty, and I want to also circle back to another point that you said, no, travel doesn't have to be expensive. No, you know you can buy a house for a million dollars for $400,000. Still, a house. It's just different kind of house, with different kind of expectations. But at the same time I feel like as women again. I'm harping on this point that as women, we don't give ourselves permission to spend money like oh, my God! I would spend the $10,000 on a trip for myself! No, I can take my kids, my grandkids, my my sister, my husband, my parents like I can do all these things, or I can update the bathroom or the kitchen or put it into my kids. I was, gonna say, my kids, retirement plan, not kids retirement plan. It was my kids college fund, or I'll put in my like, I'll put the money into, even if I have the 10,000 that I could spend on the trip. I'll put it into any kind of other thing, but I will not give myself permission to spend the money on the trip, and I like, and I became such an advocate when I speak to women who are in that mindset, I tell them. You deserve it. If you have the financial freedom to take that 10,000 20,000, whatever 1,000, maybe for someone. It's a $2,000 trip. It doesn't have to be 10,000, but you have to give yourself permission to spend that money on you because you get you should be okay with spending the money on you, enjoying it the way you want to enjoy it without feeling guilty. So that's my soul. Box.

Susie Chau: 12:55

No. And and and I just kept nodding because I agree so much as women. We don't prioritize ourselves. And honestly, we're taught to always put, you know our children first, st our partners first, st everybody else first, st and and we, you know, just kind of keep getting knocked down the list, and that goes for how we spend our time and how we spend our money. We always want to care for others, but I think it comes down to a couple of things. And 1 1 of those reasons why we don't prioritize ourselves is because we've been kind of conditioned throughout our lives to keep keep working harder. Keep achieving. Keep proving yourself to to get the, you know, acceptance and and love that comes along with that. And so you know, when you were a child, and you got good grades. And your parents, said, Yay, that's amazing. You said, oh, I want more of that. And you know that just continued that cycle continued. and you really want to to do that. So I think part of the reason why we have that productivity. Guilt is because we just keep grinding, because that's what we think is going to lead to. You know the results that we want. And you know, subconsciously, that can be love and acceptance consciously that could be making more money. And you know what the things that we we desire. We think you know hard work leads to that but the thing is is that we have made resting because I think the other, the other piece of not traveling is well, I gotta work harder, and I gotta, you know, do all of these things, and I'll I'll travel later, whether that's in retirement, or, you know, next year, whatever it is is, you know. There's this. you know, desire to keep driving and grinding and hustling, to get the things that you want and taking, you know, a week off, or something is, it feels unsafe because it's not. What we have been proving to ourselves is, you know, that's what gets results. We keep going, going, going, because we can't take our foot off the off the gas at all, like we we have. We're just in this this vicious cycle, unfortunately. and it's really sad. So I think that that's, you know, really kind of that root cause of the productivity guilt. But the other thing that I know I work with my really all of my clients on is defining like, what are your goals? What's your vision? What is that big? Why, for what you're doing. And I think that if that is defined really? Well, then, I think that can help you overcome the challenges. If it's just some loosey goosey. Yeah, I want to go to Italy. Someday. then, someday will not happen. But if you get way more specific about that dream, whatever it is, you know. Maybe you do want to go to Italy, and you want to learn about. I don't know the winemaking process, and, you know, go to specific wineries. And you know, really fuel, that passion that you have around wine. Okay, well, now, all of a sudden, that becomes a lot easier to to start researching. You know, trips that could be in line with that. How much does this cost? Like all of a sudden, just that little domino clicks a whole bunch of other actions that can take you from just some loosey, goosey dream that will happen someday. although trips don't generally just fall in your lap But once you start getting the more specific you can get, the easier it is to take that next step. You don't have to, you know. Figure out everything all at once. But just see, is this feasible and kind of it automatically changes your thoughts into. you know from well, I don't know if this could ever happen to? How could I make that happen? And that's a much more empowered place to be in is if you can start problem solving and see. You know, it becomes also a little bit more playful, you know, instead of be feeling like a victim like, oh, I have this desire, and that just feels so far out of reach. You can be like, Okay, well, you know, if I do want to go to Italy, what could that look like? And you know. How could I get those experiences that I am looking for? And you know there's going to be options at different price points. If you know the the price and the money is maybe more of a bigger concern. And you know, automatically, it's just like it's that snowball effect. Right? It just becomes more and more feasible. The more details you have.

Anna Fishman: 18:04

100% I love how you said it becomes from. If I can go to Italy, or whatever Argentina, whatever that magic place that you're dreaming of going to, how I can make it there. And when you, when that mind shift, switches you, you go from that victim of like. Oh, I can't do this into like I can. I just need to figure out how I hear a lot of times. Oh, the trip is so expensive. I don't want to stay in hostels. I want to do it really like, I want to do it right. If I'm if I'm gonna do Paris, I'm gonna do Paris right like it's the the famous quote from Emily in Paris, like Emily, you're gonna do Paris do it right like a lot of times. We have like this idea of like oh, it has to be 4 seasons, or it has to be Limo driver, or whatever that that like one thing, or like a swim up room or a cave swim up thing in in Santorini, that, like we all see on Instagram, whatever that thing that does it for you. But where we put these these limiting beliefs like, Oh, no, it's too expensive. It's for influencers. It's for younger people. It's for single people. We put all these labels, all these excuses. Why, we can't do it, but I love how you said like, well, figure out how I I gave like when I was younger and in college, and traveled in hostels and like didn't have the money to do it. The way I wanted to do it. I would like put away. I would put like away a dollar every day, right? And then, like, Okay, that's $7. And then it's $30 like nowadays you cannot buy much for a dollar. So maybe like someone who's a little bit older and more mature and has some savings, maybe putting away $20 a day like. do an experiment set up an automatic transfer from your bank from one account to another account, 20 bucks a day, and see what happens in like in 6 months and see what happens in 9 months. And you're like, Oh, that's going to be a nice chunk of change, and I bet you're not going to feel that $20, because that $20 is probably like a Starbucks and and half a sandwich, New York or Chicago these days.

Susie Chau: 20:04

It's like.

Anna Fishman: 20:05

You know I would totally give up Starbucks and half a sandwich every day, and like make my own peanut butter and jelly, or my own salad at home, or my own coffee at home. But then, like, go and have that amazing meal in Italy, that amazing coffee in Italy. It's not Starbucks that that amazing like Sandwich or that pizza in Italy like it's it would mean so much more to me to do that versus sitting here and like, Oh, I can't do this because it's too expensive, because I have 2 kids, because I have a mortgage like we all have all these excuses, but I think we need to start giving ourselves that permission slip. And that's why I'm calling these interviews. These are like really permission slip conversations, because nobody's gonna your husband's not gonna give it to you, your parents not going to give it to your kids. You have to do it yourself. You have to give yourself that permission to do the things that you want to do, and you have to be a big girl. I have to put the big girl panties on, and figure out how to do this.

Susie Chau: 20:58

Absolutely. And it comes down to prioritization, I think, with your time and your money, you know, for for the money side of things, just to go back to your conversation real quick on, you know, saving up money, and if let's say where you stay is the biggest priority to you. then put that towards hotels. Maybe the experiences or tours are going to be top priority to you. But these are these levers. You can push and pull to make the trip happen in the way that's going to fulfill you the most. And I think that that's really critical in, you know, it doesn't have to be all one way. I mean, there's plenty of ways to travel. but the same thing goes with pushing and pulling levers, you know, with your time on on a regular basis, but also when you travel I think spending your time in the way that fills your cup the most, and energizes you the most. I think that's what's going to lead to the best trips or the best types of activities that you can do on. Let's say a weekly basis. And it's all about kind of testing. I have this whole experimentation kind of mindset that I am, you know, working with women business owners on is like being a little bit playful, too, about how you can, you know, find these little pockets of time to give back to yourself, because again, you know we're not doing this on a regular basis, or at least most people and anybody who needs help. you know they are just working themselves to the bone, and then feeling really overwhelmed and well, it's no wonder that you're not feeling, you know, like yourself, because you're not giving any of your energy to yourself, and I think that's so important to, you know. Start moving ourselves up that list on a regular basis and certainly on. You know the macro scale of. you know, looking at your year. And you know, if if travel is some and I'm assuming everybody who's watching this loves travel, obviously us included prioritizing that in. You know the way you look at your years. You know, and months, and you know, if that's something that really fills your cup, then that's going to lead to the best version of you. You know, if you think about your vacation personality, I know you want more of that in your life because I feel like everybody has a vacation version of themselves where they're. you know, much more easy, breezy, and and they want to channel that energy. I think that you know where the last few months I've been kind of exploring the idea of like, how can you channel some of that vacation mindset into your everyday normal routines, and my answer to that is carving out and really prioritizing some regular time for yourself, depending on you know what what gives you that energy, you know, could be anything from like moving your body or challenging your mind, or being out in nature, spending time with you, know your family, your partner, your kids, you know, it's gonna look a little different for everybody. But I think, figuring out and testing what is that thing that really lights you up. Do more of that. you know, just to be able to to give that gift to yourself, and I can guarantee you that the time spent away from your laptop? If you are, you know really, truly filling your cup, you will be able to return back more focused, more energized and therefore more productive. When you are, you know, physically, you know, typing away or doing whatever type of work you do.

Anna Fishman: 24:53

It's so true, and it sounds it's not only being away from the laptop, it's and I'm going to be the 1st one to say it's being away from your partner. It's being away from your kids. A lot of us women have this guilt like, Oh, I can't leave my kids, or I can't travel without my partner. I created my business of traveling without my kids and without my partner, for that same reason that I wanted to have an excuse to be a little bit like away from them, because I need. I need to recharge. And yes, it's harder on my partner when I'm away with the kids. We have 2 boys, 3 and 9. So it's it's not an easy feat. But when I come back, after being away for that week I come back a better mom. I come back a better wife. I'm more patient, I am more grounded. My cup is more filled like I'm looking at things differently. So like I make up for so much more than when I'm away. And that's like that's so priceless to me and to everyone around me because my kids and my husband they deserve a calmer, happier me, more grounded me that I can then be my best version of mom and wife to them.

Susie Chau: 25:58

And I think that's so important to restoring your identity just as an individual and not as a mom. And you know a business owner. In in our cases, those are probably our 2 biggest identities. And it's really hard when that, you know, takes 99% of your time. So to be able to to take some time away and just be like, Well, who is Susie? Without being mom, you know, revisit that cause. It's been a while, and you know, to to really be able to see. You know what does light me up. And I think that's the power of travel is that you're outside of your routine. You're outside of your normal scenery that instantly changes your perspectives, your thoughts, your you know ways of of viewing life, and I think that some really powerful takeaways happen, at least for me, on every single trip. I come back home with new ways of thinking, and that always, you know gives me the best business ideas, and not that I'm actively thinking about work while I'm traveling. I mean, sometimes it happens. But you know it's it's the brain is still working, even while you're you know, off maybe on a boat, or, you know, eating in a a fabulous meal with a stunning view in, let's say Italy, or wherever your brain is still working, and it's it's really just a phenomenal opportunity to come back refreshed and like, with a fresh set of eyes that you'd be surprised. You know what what that perspective can mean to, you know. Maybe you've been just really stuck on a problem. And just you can't. You can't really seem to break through. But for some reason, when you go and you travel, and then you come back home. It's like, Oh, okay. Now, now that I've had a little bit of disconnected time. I'm seeing that in a different way like it, just it just shakes things up and literally changes like neural pathways when you are in a different physical location.

Anna Fishman: 28:12

Yeah, when I come back home from a trip like even when I'm in the cab from the airport to my house, like when I look at the same scenery that, like I always look at, I was like, Oh, this looks different, or like you walk into your house and like oh, this looks different like it's the same stuff, but it just looks different because you were away for like a week. And now kind of like your your whole perspective changed. It's it's really amazing what travel does to you. I have a new friend that we've been friends for only a couple of months, and I was really craving trip craving a trip in the summer. We haven't been anywhere in 2 months. So poor me, I know 1st of all problems. and then we went on a trip, and I came back, and she was like, Oh, my God! You look like a new person like you have that sparkle in your eye like you really like this trip, really like changed even how you physically look! She's like this. I thought you were joking. You were like, Oh, you know, I need a vacation. Everybody's like I need a vacation, need a vacation right? But like, I actually like physically need needed to be on the plane, go to different time zone like. hear a different language, eat different food to have this reset, and then I come back like a new person she was so mesmerized. She's like, I cannot believe like how different you look and like it's not like I went and got a makeover. No, I just got on the plane and went to Germany for a week, and then came back. It wasn't anything like that's fabulous. So like we all we take for granted, like what travel can do to us. It's kind of like a good night's sleep sometimes, you know, at the end of the day you're tired, and you can't see straight on the problem. Then you wake up in the morning with a fresh perspective. And you're like, Oh, this is much easier, or like I can do this. I can figure this out. So, Susie, I don't wanna take too much of your time. I'm sure we can talk about this for next 17 h, and like still still have more points to bring. But you know one thing that always bothers me when I come across coaches or courses a lot of times. It's like, Do this, do that, you know. Let's say, business go small and social. Go exercise, eat how like people everybody's telling us what to do. But very few people are actually telling us how to do it. And I know you actually have an actionable course with tips and specific things on how to do it. So I know we will share more information in the link and in the comments below. But can you tell us a little bit about like, can you share maybe a few tips on how to like work like, maybe somebody. Just listen to this. They're going to stop the video and be like, okay, I want to do one thing if they can do one thing today before, except for signing up for information about your course, but like one thing, how they can prioritize themselves and give themselves a little bit more time like, what can they do?

Susie Chau: 30:40

The 1st thing that came to my mind when you were talking about. Do this, do that. There's so much noise out there, and and this I know, resonated with you when you watched my master class, that I did last week was put your blinders on and focus on. What are your goals. What are your priorities? Ignore the rest, and that alone can save you time, not only in doing things that don't align with those goals. but also spending time, you know, watching videos and things like, Oh, that sounds nice. And it's shiny object syndrome. I want to do that. Oh, wow! That that gets that results. It's so so hard to just stay focused. But the more you can stay focused on you know what are your short term goals that you are trying to achieve. and just eliminating the stuff that does not align. With that you can put it to the side and do that next season next quarter, whatever it is. but just really being ultra focused on what you need right now, I think that is 1 1 thing that that really resonated with people. And the thing is is that that might disappoint some people. If you're if you're eliminating some stuff that might impact some people, and especially with us, like myself, who have some people pleasing tendencies that can be really hard, but I think with proper communication, and being very proactive about talking about those changes and why you're making those changes. It can soften the blow a little bit. and I think practicing, disappointing. Some people is going to help you get closer to your goal of prioritizing yourself on a regular basis. And then, you know, looking at your year, being able to prioritize bigger things like those big trips. So my program is called Time, freedom, Upgrade. It's for women business owners. And the whole goal of the program is to find 5 or more hours each week that you can spend on yourself and not working. So I go into 5 secrets in a freebie that I am giving Anna the link to. So take a look at the comments below. Wherever you're watching. Click that link. And you're going to get the 5 secrets into how you can actually do that. And what's the 4 step process that I teach inside the program? That is a 4 week program. And each week is one step. So it's really meant to set the foundation for creating these processes and systems in your business and your life, to be able to prioritize yourself. And this is something that I think, is is so powerful in, you know, especially as we're approaching the end of the year. You want to enter 2025 with some solid systems and be able to actually unplug over the holidays. And I know that's so so hard, especially for business owners who are so passionate about what we do. It's so critical to be able to set some of these foundations and overcome. You know some of these tendencies like people pleasing and productivity, guilt, perfectionism, you know these these things that we all are, I would say, the root causes. And so this program, yes, there's some tactics and strategies. But it's really giving you personalized attention and like, how can you mitigate some of these tendencies that you have? That's holding you back? So it's really kind of allowing you to set that foundation so that you know, maybe maybe in 2025, you can add on that shiny new marketing strategy. But let's let's start being more optimized with our time, making sure that our well-being is a priority, and then then we can layer on. You know the things that really will benefit us and our businesses in the future.

Anna Fishman: 34:40

That's awesome. It's so important what you're doing this work for to give women this freedom like 5 HA week. Oh, my God, that sounds incredible. And you know the masterclass that I took with you last week, like I started using some of the things like actually wrote down a whole page of all kinds of nonsense. Oh, I call it nonsense, but it's a lot of it is is important things that I need to do. But then I actually highlighted the important things. And I was like, Oh. okay, so maybe I'm not. I'm gonna stop doing these 3 things that they're important, but not like. Maybe I can. They can wait, you know. So then, like this gave me opportunity to kind of like, take this mental load off. I'm like, I don't have to do all the things all at once.

Susie Chau: 35:20

Yes.

Anna Fishman: 35:21

It's like even just doing the free class with you and taking like the 5 tips that you gave. I was like, Oh, my God, this was so worth my time. So ladies don't get us wrong. We're not trying to get you to sign up for some 1 million hours a week program. Anything like that just signing up for this Freebie is gonna unlock. At least, I've given you my promise at least 1 h of free time a week, because you can just look at things differently, maybe outsource some things or deprioritize other things. But it will definitely lighten your load so definitely sign up for Susie's Freebie. Susie, thank you so much. This has been really really awesome. I hope you'll come back soon and and share with us more secrets of how to take more time off and how to maybe how to take a week off during the holidays. That's like a really big bucket list item for me. I can never take a week during that.

Susie Chau: 36:13

Well, that's the thing. This is kind of like that foundation. So once you've got that, it's gonna make it a whole lot easier to take the week, or maybe a sabbatical and and that's like what I'm building my my business to kind of incrementally help people take that next step. But we got to set the foundations right first.st So yeah, I I would love to help anybody who's watching this. Thank you, Anna, for such a glowing review. That means the world to me, and I really am coming from a place of service, because I know how critical this is. and especially, you know, with my experience in Sabbaticals. Really being able to kind of help step you towards more and more of that time. Freedom that I know we all want and yeah, please please reach out carpe diem traveler.com kind of on all the things. Is the best. Yeah, like that. And then traveler one Li. We are. I am American. So yeah, you can find me. I'm most active on Instagram. And Susie Chow on Linkedin. Those are great ways to to get in touch. But yeah, download that Freebie. And I'm giving you all my secrets.

Anna Fishman: 37:30

Awesome. Thank you so much, Susie, for all your brilliance, and for your time so excited that we were able to connect and hope to see you soon. Here again.

Susie Chau: 37:38

Thank you so much.