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Permission Slips - Ep2 - Sarah Walton - Permission to live without regrets

• Anna Fishman • Season 2 • Episode 2

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Sarah Walton

Join me on this fascinating chat with my business coach, Sarah Walton, where we go deep on how to live without regrets, re-write our own rules, create our own boundaries, and give ourselves permission to do what YOU actually want!

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Anna Fishman:

Hello, everybody! Episode 2. Look at. Fancy us! We made it past one. I am so, so, so, so stinkingly excited today to have my one of my favorite people on the planet Earth to be here with me, Sarah Walton. She is my business coach. She's my life coach. She is my screw my head on right kind of coach. and I owe a lot of what I was able to accomplish in my small, teeny, tiny business to Sarah. So, Sarah, thank you so much. or screw my head on right most of the time. Yeah. And.

Sarah Walton:

You, though. Come on now, come on. Now, you know you put in all this all the elbow grease and the hard work, and the sweat, blood, and tears.

Anna Fishman:

Yeah, that, too. But it really helps having someone like you in my corner who can like seem kind of like X-ray through me, and know exactly what to say when to say it, and how to get me from point A to Point B. So thank you so much, and I'm so excited that I will have you here today. Shine your brilliance on this call, and maybe help someone else through indirectly through this video to maybe make one baby step, because it's all about that 1st little tiny step to get to their next goal. So before we go into the good stuff, I mean, not that this is not good stuff. But tell us who is Sarah, and what do you do?

Sarah Walton:

Okay. Hi, well, 1st of all, I'm I'm thrilled to be here. I'm so excited I love your business so much as you know, and I am also one of your biggest fans. And I think I think what you're doing here is really cool. So I'm really happy to be a part of it. So I just wanted to say, Thank you for having me and what do I do? I am a business coach, right? And a success coach is basically one of my favorite ways to describe it. People go. Oh, I get what that is. And I really have the heart of my work around our relationship to money as women especially, and our relationship to joy, and giving ourselves permission to live life to its fullest. I think there are so many of us all throughout our childhoods in so many different ways. We were told to just sort of, you know. Stop having feelings. stop annoying other people, and, damn it, just get everything done that I need to have done, and then everything will be great. Thanks, and it's not quite given that way. The the message isn't quite given that way, but it is so clear to me, and watching so many of us. I would say, you know, age 25 and up that are just like this feeling of like, am I allowed to want things? Am I allowed to have ambition? Am I allowed to make a lot of money, and I just keep wondering. When did we get like this? When did we sit around and start waiting for other people to tell us it was okay to do what we want to do. and of course we'll always be responsible, because all of us are right. Anybody who thinks they're living their life. To keep other people happy is very responsible and very aware of what's going on around them. And so I think I kind of consider it my job. My tagline, is, you know, more money in the hands of more women, because I love the way women handle money. I think if we had more women with money we wouldn't be dropping bombs on other people's children. We would be dropping food, medicine, and water. I think, if we can get those things within an inch of where we need them. Why aren't we dropping things that actually provide life and sustain life? And I think if we had more women at the top, it would look like that. Every woman I know who has a lot of money is incredibly generous and gives it out in droves, or does great things with it, or works on causes, and so at the heart of me, wanting to put more money in the hands of more women is this idea that we have the right to want what we want, and it is 100% not only acceptable but desirable for us to achieve those things that we want, and to live life on our terms. I hope, I answered your question.

Anna Fishman:

Oh, yeah. absolutely. And you know, you touched on so many important points like, I don't like, my head is running into 1 million directions. I don't even know like where. because it's everything. Everything that you said makes so much sense and is so important. And I know that from several conversations that we've had. I came up with this idea for the podcast and to call it give yourself permission, slip, because we have all these limiting beliefs that, like. We're not supposed to have all this money. What do you mean? You're going to spend all this money on trip by yourself. What do you mean like you can charge that much or like you're going to take this time off work and away from your family. So it's like it goes back all the way to that permission, like, we can give this permission to ourselves, and we don't need this permission from our parents or our husbands or our children. because even if they give us that permission, but we still don't give us that permission. It's still not gonna work.

Sarah Walton:

Exactly right.

Anna Fishman:

And we end up in this like, well, I almost went to Italy right? I almost started a business. I almost started painting glasses like, really, almost. And then you're I don't know. 100 years old on your deathbed. And you're like, well, I almost lived a life. I don't want to. Yeah, almost.

Sarah Walton:

Yeah, and it will give you chills. And you know, that is like the the name of my very, very 1st podcast. Episode, ever is. Don't live a life of almost, and I think you know when, Anna, when you and I were talking about it, you were like, Oh, my God. Oh, my God, right! And it is that feeling. And there's so many people doing it, you know, since we're talking about travel. one of the things that we've done in research and found out is that you know, one in 5 people as they're like laying in that deathbed that we all know we're eventually going to lay in right if we're lucky. That's how we go. One in 5 really regrets not traveling more. And I think you know we have. We have some things going on on planet Earth right now, in case people haven't noticed. There's some things going on hurricanes, fires, floods, you know, wars. It's happening right? And so what? What more perfect time to make sure you do what you want to do, as far as experiencing the life you want to experience. And you know, for some people that's that's gelato in Florence, right for other people. It is making sure they read books by themselves on the beach for other people. It's all of the best food on the planet that they haven't been able to try yet, and for others it's making new friends, and I think I I can't think of anything more urgent than our own happiness. All of us who identify as women right this our own happiness that we fight for that because honestly, when women are happy, when we're fulfilled. when we're satisfied, and we stand up to present something or to share something, or to talk to our loved ones.

Anna Fishman:

Oh no!

Sarah Walton:

Everything changes right. There's all those silly phrases like happy wife, happy life! But they're so rooted in the truth. If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy right? There's all these really funny phrases, but they're so rooted in that truth. And because when we were little girls, we were told, oh, stop crying. Where's my! Where's my pretty smile? The message behind that is, your emotions are bothering me. Do something I like. and we pick that up real quick, real, quick. We know that we're here just to exist. To make sure everyone else is okay. And at some point in our lives we need to turn that inward and start looking at who we want to be on this planet, and how we want to love other people. And the best way to do that is to be as fulfilled and as satisfied as possible. And for so many of us, you know, it's experience that's the only thing that life can't take away from us right? And we look at the reason. I say 25 and above, we're the ones who really suffer with this. If we look at even a lot of the millennials, too, like this. This idea that you don't want things right? You want experiences. Yeah. And it's happening. And I'm so happy to see that because it's the only thing people can't take away is what you learn, what you know, what you experience and who you love anything else can be taken. But those experiences cannot. And I think there's a there's a grounding and a foundation in that that you just can't find by, you know, buying another bag, buying another pair of shoes. Those things are fun. but it's completely different. When you create an experience. No one can take away.

Anna Fishman:

You know what else is different when you buy that bag, and that those pairs of shoes like in Venice. Maybe.

Sarah Walton:

Yeah, yeah.

Anna Fishman:

That those kind of experiences that I look forward to like. I like things we all like things right. But oh, yeah, how many bags do I need? But I can buy a new bag when I'm in Venice or in Ital like I just love it. Also use Venice as an example, and it doesn't have to be a $3,000 bag. I don't need that like. I'll spend 3,000 on the actual trip. I'll buy.

Sarah Walton:

Right.

Anna Fishman:

I'll buy like a €30 bag. That will be my favorite bag for the next 5 years, and I'm going to cherish it, and every time I'm going to look at that bag it's going to bring back the memories and just gonna make me like so much happier than I'll spend $300 on the bag at Macy's on the route 17, and be like. I would be happy for like half a second. And then, like, okay, whatever like, it's just like the gift give like the travel gift is like keeps on giving because it reminds you throughout, like I have a blanket from Scotland, or I have a bag from Italy, or I have candle from Spain, and I just keep thinking about those trips and makes me happy again.

Sarah Walton:

Yeah, no, that's exactly right, because it's tied to the experience, and that gives it so much more value. And I have the same thing. I have a green. Oh, my God! I can't believe I'm going to share the story. I love it so much, but I have a green bag I bought in Florence, actually, and it's 1 of my favorites. And then I bought a scarf that I tie on the bag right, and I always like. but it for me. It's the same experience, like I remember the gelato I was eating when I walked in that store. I remember what I was wearing like it does all those things I remember who I was with and what we did afterwards. And it's it's just so different. And you can't get it any other way. It's not the same as like running to the Mall or Nordstrom or Sachs, or wherever the Heck people are shopping these days, because we all shop online. I don't know. So it's like, you know, wherever people are shopping it's not the same. There is nothing like that. And then, if you do love your shoes in your bags right? They're beautiful. What a joy to get them at a moment when one you couldn't get them anywhere else! They're completely unique. You can't find them. You're not going to run into, you know, Susie, in the grocery store, and she's got the same one right? So you have your own, but it also is all of the other experience that's tied into that. And what that does is just different. And I think it can remind all of us who do have a harder time giving ourselves permission to do everything that we want. That's such a great reminder. Look what look what's possible. When you do look what happens when you do get what you want, you know, when you give yourself permission, it's pretty cool.

Anna Fishman:

It is amazing, and I know I keep talking about Venice because it's on my mind, because I love Venice.

Sarah Walton:

I love Venice. Yeah.

Anna Fishman:

But you know, like, when it goes to back to giving yourself permission when I was creating our trip to Venice, that we're doing at the end of the year I was like, what do I, personally, as Anna, want to do? Not what do with my clients like which I know a lot of gurus like teaching like, what does the market want? Give them what they want like? What do I want? And I really wanted to experience Venetian carnival. Because I know, like with my 2 little kids like, what are the chances? I'm going to go to a Venetian carnival anytime soon. 0 to none. And I was like, I'm not gonna go to Venice in February, because it's just like not working out. And I'm going to be there in December. But I really want this thinking carnival. So I was like, I'm gonna rewrite the rules and do my own carnival in December, at the hotel where we're staying, and we're gonna dress up in the dresses, and we're gonna do the hair and makeup like. Who said I can't. I like I had to give myself my own permission, and I'm like, Oh, shoot! I can do this.

Sarah Walton:

Yeah.

Anna Fishman:

Like it's it's time to start rewriting the rules.

Sarah Walton:

Yeah, it is, it is. And look at what you just did right. Because now, not only are you offering that for yourself, you're offering it for everyone else. you know, who's on that trip with you and gets to go do that. And I think that's amazing, and that that's what I mean by as women, we always pay it forward. Once we're happy, we're satisfied, we give ourselves permission. It always gets paid forward. And that's why you know this moralization that can happen like, really, you're going to do that like that thing that can happen. And, by the way, that's woman on woman crime. So don't say that to your friends anymore. Encourage them. Let them go. Do what they love right. We were all taught to do this to each other, and just ask yourself who wins if we keep doing that, that's all I'll say about that. But encourage each other to go, and you go and do this, you're so much happier. And then the other thing I love to Anna is you're giving other women permission to do the same thing, and it's just so powerful, because if we're all happy and satisfied, imagine how different the world would be.

Anna Fishman:

It's it's mind blowing, you know, like, when you say, like, we have to fill our cup first, st and we have to make sure that we're okay. First, st I keep thinking, of course, of a travel analogy, because there's nothing else in the world except for travel. I keep thinking of, you know when in on the plane the masks fall like the oxygen mask, and they like. Put it on yourself first, st and then put it on everybody else, because if you don't put it on yourself first, st you cannot help anyone else. and that's kind of the analogy I have in my head. Like, if I am not okay. My kids are not okay. My husband is not okay. My parents, not okay. My business is definitely not okay, because nobody else is going to do it, unless I actually sit down and do the work.

Sarah Walton:

Yeah.

Anna Fishman:

So like, it's a lot of responsibility on our shoulders. And we're like, Okay, no, I have to keep going like that energizer, Bunny, and do all these 45 things on my to-do list. Oh, my God, I didn't get to do them! I'm a failure. And then it's this vicious cycle, but like as much as we need to put the time into the work, we need to put the time into our well-being. I go on a trip, and I come back, and I'm like, Oh, my God, I'm a new person like I'm fresher. I'm more exciting. I'm more patient. I'm just like better. And I mean, yes, my bank account is probably smaller when I come back. But but yeah, but it gives me the inspiration to like work harder and do more and do better things that will replenish that bank account. We can always make more money. We cannot make more time.

Sarah Walton:

That's what I always say. Money's infinite. You can always make more money. you know, and anyone who just went what my favorite thing is to say, look around your house right now. Look at everything you own. Someone created that out of thin air, and then you bought it. You can always make more money right? It's just one of those. It's a it's a fact, right? And it's always circulating around the globe. And I would never. you know. I remember saying this to my kids when they were really young. Don't hate me, but I love Disney. I know I love it. I don't know. I was just, you know. My childhood was not happy at all. Well, it was a little happy, but it wasn't that happy right? And Disney was a place I could go, and it just to me signified like happiness and joy and silliness, and I don't know they're pumping vanilla or cinnamon into the air. I don't know what it, but it's just like, Oh, my God! I'm so happy, right? And when I, our kids, were young, you know, my then husband was like, we're spending how much on this trip. And I was like, yes, we are right, and I have, and I paid for it. I was like, this is coming out of the Sarah side of the fund, and we're freaking, going. and every day it was like, Oh, my God! Why didn't we do this sooner. Oh, my God, I'm so glad we did this. I've never heard anyone come home from a trip and be like, yeah, that wasn't worth it. I've actually never heard that, especially if it's somewhere you've always wanted to see, or you get to meet new people. You get to taste something new that you haven't tasted before. You get to come home with a little something for yourself that you can't get anywhere else. Those little things I've never heard someone come home and say that wasn't worth the money ever, never! And I I work inside travel. I've done all those things I love to travel, and I've never heard anyone say that. And I think that's really important. It's almost like working out right. You don't come home from work, and I go. God! I wish I hadn't done that. No, everybody's like Dang! That was the best thing ever. And then you have to write that down, so you remember to go again. But it's the same idea with travel. I would rather somebody go and have the experience, then wonder. because I personally think that regret and that almost it's that's a special form of hell. I really think that, knowing what you could have done or could have had, and you didn't ugh! And a lot of times, you know. I'll talk to people about that when it comes to conversations telling people you love them, buying yourself something beautiful, getting out of debt, like all the things that I teach and talk about. Travel's 1 of them. It's just one of them like, what good is that money doing? Sitting in the bank. If you're miserable, that's not what it. That's not what money's for. you know, and being responsible about it. but using it well and using it wisely to create something that's just incredible. And, boy, the people that you meet I know I happen to know. A few people have gone on your trips, Anna, and I think the the women that you attract on these trips, and what they get to do is amazing. And while you were talking about how happy you are when you come back. I was imagining all of the like the empty nesters, because I'm I'm like this close right. So the empty nesters is like, I know, for me when I've been on a trip. I was just imagining myself walking into the grocery store coming home. I am so much nicer like. I'm pretty nice all the time I am so much nicer, I'm like, Oh, my God! You look so beautiful! What's happening. Oh, my God! Let's have a conversation, cashier, they're like oh, she went out again. Look at her! Look at her! Go, you know, but it's this thing where we spread that happiness and joy, and just the difference between that and then having more money in the bank. But you hate your life like, what are we doing? What are we doing this? This is what life is for us to go and explore. Oh, my God! I just went on a whole tangent. But I.

Anna Fishman:

No, this is great, and you know the only trips that I regret are the ones I didn't take. Yeah.

Sarah Walton:

No, I think that's right. I think that's right.

Anna Fishman:

Like. I still remember that opportunity to go to Japan when I was 21 and I didn't. It's like haunting me.

Sarah Walton:

It's still there. Right? Yeah.

Anna Fishman:

Oh, it's a.

Sarah Walton:

Yeah, yeah.

Anna Fishman:

Why didn't I get? Not? I mean, I hope one day I'll go. But when people say like, Oh, one day I'll go to Japan. No, you will not, unless you actually have an actionable plan, you know.

Sarah Walton:

Right? You have to. Yeah, you have to put it in motion. It's not gonna happen by magic. Yeah, you're reminding me. I gosh! I had called off a wedding, I know. Let's get personal right. I had called off a wedding. I was 27 and I had just moved out of the apartment we had together in Manhattan right before our wedding. And a girlfriend of mine called and said, I want to go climb my Machu Picchu. I was like, Okay, let's go. It was the best thing I've ever done. I highly recommend that, by the way, but I remember at the time people were like. you shouldn't be doing this, you just broke up with someone. I'm like I should be doing this because I just broke up with someone feeling of like, I'm not going to stop living because I'm really sad. right? And that was one of that was a life changing trip, I mean? Oh, my God! Hiking that trail, doing all those things! And I actually, you know came home with some sort of bug. We still, the doctor still don't know what I don't care. I remember laying there the doctor like, wait a minute. I'm like I hiked the trail. They're like, All right, great, and I didn't care. People were like, would you go again? I'm like, in 20 seconds, right? So even when it doesn't go the way that that we plan, and I didn't feel yucky until I got home. But even when it doesn't go the way we plan, you never regret what you see that you can't see anywhere else. And I mean, I have a whole photo album because I'm that old. So I couldn't just take my phone. I have a whole photo album that I can hold in my hands of climbing that trail and hanging out of Machu Picchu and the people I met, and our guide, as we were hiking. It was extraordinary, and I wouldn't trade that trip for anything. And it actually was one of those. This really isn't a good idea. I'm going right now right, and that you never regret that you just don't regret it.

Anna Fishman:

Oh, that's so amazing! Now I want to go to Machu Picchu. Not that I never wanted to go. I want to go everywhere. But now that as you're telling the story like I now I want to go more. It like climb went up this my bucket list list a little bit higher.

Sarah Walton:

Let me tell you. I'm glad I went in my twenties, too, but I'd go again tomorrow if someone was like, Can we go again. I'm like, Yeah, it was. It was such hard work. And so God! It was just, oh, you're bringing me back. Actually, I'm going to go look at that photo album later today.

Anna Fishman:

It's amazing how transformational like a trip can be right like you go. And you have no idea like who you're going to meet and what you're going to do. Or maybe you have some idea, because you have an itinerary. But then, like the feelings that you will feel you have no idea when I go on these trips. You know, you know my story like it's been 10 years up and down in different kinds of travel and non-travel. But one day, I think on my second trip, when I was in Italy, after like a really long dinner and a lot of wine and the whole 9 yards. I was just like I couldn't sleep. I jet lagged. I'm just laying there, and it kind of hit me. I'm like, Oh, my God! Maybe this is what I was supposed to do when I grow up.

Sarah Walton:

No.

Anna Fishman:

Like, because seeing the faces of the women as they're experiencing it like I've done travel for almost 10 years. And I I send people, and when I'm lucky they'll send me a couple of pictures back. And I'm like, yes, because I can connect the dots of like. This is my work. What I've done. And this is how they're experiencing it. It does not compare to actually being there with them and seeing their like faces lit up. slide out. Yeah. And just like just feeling all that energy is kind of like with traveling with your kids. And you see the world through their eyes. It's like absolutely incredible. But seeing people who are like, I had these amazing, I keep talking about them, these amazing 3 women on one of my trips. They were each 7 to 7 years old, and I was very worried. I'm like, Oh, they're a little bit older. How are they gonna do this, Sarah? They out danced me, they out walked me the zestful life they had. They were best friends since college. The stories I heard about them flying pan Am. And like it was just like it was.

Sarah Walton:

Yeah.

Anna Fishman:

So much fun. And at the end of the trip they told me, Anna, we've traveled a lot on very fancy safaris and cruises, and this is one of the best trips we've ever taken. I was like, Oh, my God! This was not what I was supposed to do when I grow up.

Sarah Walton:

Yeah, yeah. Oh, I love that. I love that. And I believe you. I believe you. I mean, obviously, okay. You guys, you know, I'm her business coach, right? So I know the ins and outs of everything she creates, and I will tell you I mean, the the attention to detail is pretty extraordinary. and I think, too, I was thinking about the Venice trip when you were talking about it earlier. I think one of the things that makes that so special is, you know, there's a certain time of life where the holidays aren't fun anymore, like your old right? And it's not great for so many people, and so I think for you to provide this trip at that time, not to mention you're going to Venice. Hi! We talk about the Venetian glass like, can we talk about the Christmas ornaments you're coming home with, or the holiday gifts you're going to have for like? Can we just stop it like, stop! I can't even right so. But you look at that, and it's it's not only are we creating something beautiful and supporting all of the people in Venice right? Who keep getting clobbered, you know, because the water life right like watching all that, supporting all of that. plus giving themselves this gift and doing it the way you wanted to do it right during a time that can be tough for people and making it completely joyous instead, like, stop it. I can't think of anything better than that. And and yeah, I'm a little jealous. I still have one at home, but once I don't. We know where I'm going.

Anna Fishman:

Always have a spot on my trips.

Sarah Walton:

Oh, you're the sweetest.

Anna Fishman:

Even like the the night before I'm flying out. You're like, and I'm coming. I'm like, yep. stay in a different hotel. You'll take my room. Okay.

Sarah Walton:

I'll be like I'll sleep. I'll sleep in a boat. It's fine, it's fine. Don't worry about it. Throw me in a gondola. It's fine. Yeah, I mean, I just I, freaking love that city. I think it is so special. I haven't been in about 10 years, and that's 10 years too long, but it is so. I remember I was very young the 1st time I went to Venice. I want to say 18, and God bless my parents. They just freaking. Send me places. Stepmom, my stepmom, who's from New York and my dad? Would they just send me places I felt so lucky. and I remember I showed up. I'm like, wait, there's no cars here.

Anna Fishman:

People still ask me if they can take an Uber. I'm like, try.

Sarah Walton:

And like, Yes, Dummy, there's no cars there. I'm like, it's gorgeous. I'm like there's no pollution. It's amazing. You want to go somewhere. You can walk anywhere. The canals are amazing. Oh, my God, I like I had for some reason I'd never put together that it's a city built on canals that nothing's wide enough for a car like I didn't even think about it. But to get there and experience that entire way of living is so beautiful. And I think it's just. It's just another window into what human beings can do when we put our minds to it, and to experience that I call that having a thing I know that's not articulate. But when I'm traveling and I have a thing where I'm like. it's a thing that's a thing. And I I.

Anna Fishman:

I love it.

Sarah Walton:

Things in Venice. Yeah.

Anna Fishman:

I was gonna say, living the life that we live, and we're so jaded, and everything is at a click from Amazon like kids are like, Oh, it appears it's just magic. Yeah, magic, right? Magic. But like not a lot of things these days make us like, you know, catch our breath, and Venice like makes you do that.

Sarah Walton:

I want to go back right now. Oh, my gosh! I listened to a string quartet one night I remember doing that I was there by myself at 18. Can you stand it? Who the heck am I, anyway? Yeah, but I did that, and I.

Anna Fishman:

For me. I was by myself in Spain.

Sarah Walton:

Were you. I love us. We're like, bye, I know there's like a Sarah shaped hole in the wall. I'm like, see ya. But yeah, I I just love that so much. And I remember hearing a canal behind me and listening to that music and being like. whose life is this like how, what? And you're right. I hadn't thought about that. But you're right in our Insta world to be able to have those moments create those moments. We need those moments, right? Psychologists and psychiatrists and scientists are telling us over and over and over, get outside. And we're like, it's like, Get outside. Remember your part of nature be with other people. Remember what it is to connect. Go out and explore and I think we really need it, especially now given our given our insta world. Yeah.

Anna Fishman:

100%. You know, I want to digress from this into something that you said earlier about Disney. And you're like, Oh, you know, like I love Disney. I I may not like Disney, but that's not the point. The point is that you get to like what you get to like, and you don't get to have anyone say like, Oh, what you like, Disney! And as women, we have so much of that, unfortunately, like that judgment like you're going where you're doing what you're not going to be home for the holidays. You're going to spend all this money like I love. I think, on one of your podcast episodes. When one of your amazing guests, it's like. pay attention to who you hang out with yes and maybe stop hanging out with the older naysayers, and I use that as my guiding light every day when I work with my group. I don't want like I talk to every single person like this on Zoom before allowing them like to come to the to the trip. No one can just click a button because I don't want any judging. I don't want any politics. I don't want anyone like you. You know what people ask me sometimes like they get on the call with me, and they're like. so you are you coming on the trip? I'm like, yes, I'm coming. I'm so excited. Who's watching your kids.

Sarah Walton:

Wow, really.

Anna Fishman:

I'm like. I tie them to the toilet for 7 days, and they just like hang up.

Sarah Walton:

Yeah.

Anna Fishman:

I just.

Sarah Walton:

Said, woman on woman crime. We got to support each other better than that. Yeah.

Anna Fishman:

Oh, my God! So like, pay attention to who you hang out with, and don't let those limiting beliefs like. Oh, I can't go because I have kids because I have this. a lot of people have kids, a lot of people have jobs like, we all have all these things. But it doesn't mean that we have to put ourselves last on that totem pole of like priorities. So.

Sarah Walton:

A 100%. And I think actually, going is a great role model for kids. I think it's really really important for the children growing up now to see their mothers hanging out with other women enjoying life, being with friends. It is so critical in the the growing humanity of those children. And this is actually something I teach my clients, too, when they're like, Oh, my God! I'm working so much! I'm a bad mom, I'm like, Oh, no. and we're going to just kind of just go right into that belief right now. You are an exquisite mother. and you're also a woman. You're also a person, and the more that you nurture the person in you. the more you can nurture the children through, mother, and that that wholeness that comes with that. And we've all seen the mom. I mean to be honest, there's many a time I'm on an airplane. And suddenly there's a child in my lap because I take kids from moms all the time I'm like, do you want some help with that? And if I if the kid comes with me, I'm like, go to take a nap. People are like, What are you doing? I'm like, Hey. I wish someone had done it for me right, and like getting that we can. We can share in that right. There are people around you who love you. The 10 days you're gone on a trip are not 10 days your child will remember they're 10 days. You will then use to nurture your child. and I think it is so important for us to remember. They're watching. and to see that mom is a person is so critical for their own development that you don't exist only to be Mom. You will always be there for them. Of course, if they need you, you'll give advice. You'll be the guide. You'll be the source of love. You'll be the one to call them to be like. I think there's more in you, kid. Come on right. We'll be there for them. We'll always do that. But we're also our own entity. And I think when children see that been proven through research, and a lot of different trials and therapy, you can hear and see the children who saw their mother as a human who had her own needs, desires in life versus those who didn't think she had any friends. And it happens a lot right? Because moms feel guilty. So they only go when their kids are out, you know. And they're like, I don't think my mom has friends. I'm like dude. Your mom has friends. Let me tell you something about Friday night, right? But the kids don't know, or whatever, and that that's actually detrimental to the children which is so interesting. It's the opposite of what you would think. But how important it is for us to role model taking vacations, you know, taking breaks, being with our friends and family, having in-depth conversations, enjoying the company of others. and then expanding that circle, meeting new people. And I really appreciate what you said about who we hang out with matters. I know which episode you're talking about. It's 1 of my favorite podcast episodes, too. but I was just having this conversation with my daughter raising yet another woman. Right? And she's having she's in high school. God help her! Everybody send help. But yeah. So in high school, how tough it is with friend groups. And what happens? And and she's noticed her friend. She's like, Mom, I'm not liking who I am when I hang out with them, and I was like dang if there was never a better sign than that, right like I don't know a better sign than that. And I said, You know it's really interesting when you get older. If you take the salary, the average salary of your 3 4 best friends. That'll be your salary. She's like, are you serious? I'm like, yep, and we don't even talk about money. We don't talk about how much we make with each other. But that's exactly what happens. Because who you hang out with matters. And if you're hanging out with people who are mean, people who don't like want to know anything about the world, people who are completely self absorbed in our Insta world, people who don't understand the world beyond us. And I think I'm going to say, as Americans. We really can suffer from that because we're kind of landlocked right? It's all of us. We're there from coast to coast. It's we're all American, right? It's so beautiful to go to other places and experience all those things, even if you've traveled before, to be reminded of how many beautiful souls there are out there walking this earth, and then being reminded that you get to hang out with them for a while, and who you hang out with matters and the friendships that get made on your tours. I know, and also for me. I've gone on women only tours as well the friendships. There's several people I still keep in touch with, and they're like the best, right? You just love them because you have this thing in common, and it matters to you. and you can't buy that. You just can't just matters so much.

Anna Fishman:

Absolutely. You know, Sarah, I feel like we can talk for the next 12 h. Sorry I I have so many things that I want. And then I'm looking at the clock, and I'm like, Oh, my God! She has business to run, and kids to feed, and all the other things to do.

Sarah Walton:

We both do. Yes.

Anna Fishman:

I have a feeling we're gonna have a part 2 to this at some point.

Sarah Walton:

Got it.

Anna Fishman:

On. But before I let you go, if people more want of your goodness and brilliance, where can they find you?

Sarah Walton:

Yeah. Come on over to sarahwalton.com just like it sounds. It's Sarah with an H. And Walton like the family on TV or the family that owns Walmart depending on your age, and I am not them, by the way. But yeah, so come on over to sarahwalton.com. I also have a Youtube channel, the Sarah Walton, not because I'm the Sarah Walton, but because my name was taken so you can find me over there. And one of the things I love to remind people about is how much of life you have and how much you actually have for anyone who's like, I actually really do want to go on a trip. But I'm not sure I have enough. I have these amazing abundance journal prompts that you can grab and help you kind of get your mind right as you book your trip. Yeah.

Anna Fishman:

Awesome. We'll put the link to the prompts below, and then all the other places where we put the links, because I'm so eloquent right now. All the places, all the places. Yeah.

Sarah Walton:

All the places, all the things.

Anna Fishman:

So much. This was so great to chat. We we touched upon so many important things. I hope this resonated at least with one other soul out there that will help someone make that 1st baby step to their towards their next goal, a trip a time off, and just like a second to like smell the roses. Thank you so much.

Sarah Walton:

Thank you, Anna.