Olegana Travel Boutique: SIGN YOUR OWN PERMISSION SLIP PODCAST
Olegana Travel Boutique: SIGN YOUR OWN PERMISSION SLIP PODCAST
a series of conversations with kick-ass women who are not afraid to dream big, bend the rules, and paint with bold colors outside of the box.
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Olegana Travel Boutique: SIGN YOUR OWN PERMISSION SLIP PODCAST
Permission Slips - Ep3 - Gabriella Ribeiro, TRUMarketing - Permission to travel as a single mom
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In this episode:
Gabriella Ribeiro
In this episode, Gabriella Ribeiro and I explored the importance of strategic planning and preparation in achieving personal goals, such as traveling with family. We discussed overcoming limiting beliefs and excuses that often hold women back from pursuing their ambitions. Additionally, we highlighted the value of delegating tasks to create more time for personal endeavors and how a thoughtful cost-benefit analysis can support decisions like hiring help. We also touched on the importance of taking personal time away from family to recharge, fostering stronger relationships upon return, and embracing the idea that investing in experiences for personal well-being is not something to feel guilty about.
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Hello, everyone. Episode 3. I am so proud of myself for actually making it to 3. I thought, I'm going to do one and be like, okay, this is a lot of work, and I don't want to do it. But we're doing episode 3. And I have one of my favorite women travel people, a friend, a mentor, and a single mom. So gabby. I never know if it's Gabby, Truman or Gabby Rivieri, Truman. So Gabby Rivieri, Truman welcome to our podcast.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:Thank you so much. Nice to be here.
Anna Fishman:So great to have you here. We've known each other for a while, and I always look up to you as a mentor in the industry. Like, I know you do amazing marketing things. You have a few companies that orbit around travel, marketing and travel sales which are very inspiring and working in travel is very hard not to travel, and I know both you and I love travel so much. So I guess that helps when you'll do something that you love. But today I wanted to specifically talk about you and travel. But you're traveling as a single mom and because our podcast is called permission slips, and I feel like this episode is all about giving yourself permission, signing your own permission, slip to travel as a single mom. There's so many women. I come across that talk to me and say, Anna, you know I really love what you're doing. I love your trips. They sound amazing, and I really want to come. But I'm a single mom. So I want to to chat with you. Gabby, you know. Tell us a little bit about you. How did you get on this traveling addiction and and tell us how how you make it work as a single mom.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:Yeah. So I grew up in travel. My dad was a tour operator, and when we grew up it was, it was kind of funny like we. We would go to Morocco and go to Portugal and go to all these places, and we'd be like, can we just go to Disney world like, really like, we don't want it like we didn't really get it, you know, it was. It was interesting. We always had fun, but it was just the nature of my dad's job that when he had opportunities for us, we went, and he also traveled a lot, and my mom was more home, you know. So you know I grew up understanding the the difference of what it looks like when you have an entrepreneurial parent. that you know, with their heart and soul, and every and a lot of their time is in something. And then also what it looked like to to really try to balance. And I, you know. I'm sure he tried his best, but it was hard. I remember, you know, a lot of dinners, and he wasn't at the table, you know, because he was traveling, but it was what it was, and he loved what he did. So I always traveled, and it was never a problem like we would just pick up and go, you know, like, so I grew up like that. So I sort of cheated the line right like I didn't. I didn't have to like. Learn too much of how to like in my head, of how okay? I want to do this. And then, when it came time I was married, and and, you know, now divorced, but I always I was traveled by myself my whole life like it was never a problem. I'm very comfortable sitting alone in a restaurant. I'm very comfortable, not talking to anybody or talking to somebody. It really doesn't matter, but I think with my daughter, because we? We had a lot of travel when she was born I was living somewhere else. My family was was here in New Jersey, and now I'm back. I was very accustomed to every 2, 3 weeks getting on a plane to go see my family. and it just happened, and I learned very quickly how to manage 2 wheelie carry-ons in a stroller. I learned how to change a diaper in an airplane bathroom like myself. I learned how to clean up messes like things that you have to do on the road. To to be able to, you know, to feel confident. So I think it was just. you know, being in the situation, I was where it was, travel or nothing. I learned all of these hacks, and so, when I wanted to, you know, take my daughter all different sorts of places that might not be your number one choice as a single mom to take your kid to. I kind of already had built up. You know the the street cred of of figuring out how to do this. It's not to say it wasn't hard. but, you know, the more practice you do, and the more the more you give into like I can do this. Of course, I'm a mom. I'm a rock star. Yeah, I can change a diaper here. And yeah, I can do this, and I can do that. And I can. I can turn any airport T-shirt into a into a dress for a kid who made a mess. It's those kind of things that that help you along and make you feel confident.
Anna Fishman:That's amazing. I always say, you know, when there was a way, there is a well, well, sorry the other way. When there is a well, there is a.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:Also, okay.
Anna Fishman:But a hundred percent. And it's all about like, it's all in our head, like, if we give ourselves that permission and that's, why, that's how the podcast. Is called, like, we have to drop these limiting beliefs that like as a woman, you're not supposed to trial with a child by yourself. I'm like, how are you going to do this like of? Yeah, I'm sure if you had another human being there, man, woman, whatever like it would have been easier, right? Like somebody would have been able to hold the baby. But like you wanted to make it work and you made it work, and you didn't like. Give yourself a list of excuses. Why, you can't make it work when I come across a person that like learns about what I do, and I tell them, like, you know, I send people to Europe for a living like it's it's it's a really fun job. Still a job. But it's a fun job. and when the 1st thing that comes out of their mouth is like, Oh, I would really love to come with you, but that's it. I know they will never come with me, because their mind is instantaneously coming up with 1,200 different excuses. Why, they can't go, but when I meet someone who says, You know I love what you're doing. I really want to come with you. I've never done this, I have no idea, but I am coming like I am going to make it work. I know that person will. Maybe it's gonna take them 5 years to save up the money, or like figure out like childcare or whatever. But you have to put your mind to it. Otherwise, if you're already the 1st thing comes out of your mouth is like you have all these buts. It will never work so absolutely.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:You're so right. I said that to my daughter the other day something was going, I forget, like she was talking about a friend that that wasn't seeing another friend. Or you know the situation. And her excuse was like, Oh, yeah, we really have to get together. I'm like when somebody says that. Trust me, they're never getting together. It's it's like that buffer of like, yeah, I'll call you, you know, and it's like the 2 of them were like in a little bit of a fight, not my daughter, but the friends and the same thing. And I was like she's never going to go and see her. You might as well tell her, you know. So it's the person that says, Hey, Wednesday, I happen to have time. Can you do a cup of coffee, and you'll find also, and I'm sure you come across this, too. It's the busiest women and women who have the most going on. That will make that time, and will figure out how to travel with you.
Anna Fishman:A 100%. I have women who work crazy jobs er surgeons and stay at home, moms and everything in between. And they make it work. They make it absolutely make it work because they put their mind to it. When you were talking about your daughter. I remember, like I have a friend, a friend who text me once a year on my birthday to say which is nice, but she's like, Oh, I miss you so much, but you don't text me all year round to like make any plans. Don't tell me you miss me. It's like I would, you know. I look at pictures of Italy. Oh, Italy, I miss you so much like one day. I'll go to Italy. No, unless you have that plan, unless you're putting pennies or whatever dollars into your piggy bank, or you're like, have some kind of a plan. I always tell people. If you tell me you're going to go to Italy in 5 years. I believe you, because you have that plan for 5 next 5 years. This is what you're doing. Tell me like, oh, one day I will go. No, that day will never happen.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:The other side I hate, too, is when somebody go. Oh, must be nice. you know. 1st of all, it is because I worked really hard to make it happen. Second of all, it's nice when you figure out like the hacks like, you have to ask for help. It's okay. You know you have to accept help to make it work. You have to. You have to like you said. Give yourself permission, all of that stuff. Yes, it is nice when you get on that side. Is it hard? Yeah, it's pretty freaking hard, too. It's hard. But you can do the same thing that anybody else can do. You actually can. You know, I hate the must be nice, because I think that's the difference with the difference of somebody making something work and somebody being like I'm going to be a little passive, aggressive about it, because I know I can't do it.
Anna Fishman:Yeah. Well, because people say it must be nice, because everybody sees your Instagram life. Nobody sees your life behind the camera, right? Like business class with a glass of champagne. They're like, Oh, nice! She rolled out of bed. And now she's in business class like the 12 h or 14 h the day before, when you're like pre making lunches, making sure all the laundry is done. The dog is taking care of, like all of that, like. I remember when we went on family vacation, it wasn't even like a single mom. It was like me, my husband and 2 kids and I. We were. We had like a 10 Pm. Flight that day, and since the morning, like I had the fitbed. So I was like just up and down the stairs by the time we got to the into the cab at 6 Pm. To go to Jfk. I look at my Fitbit. I had 17,000 steps. I haven't even left the house, and my.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:You know.
Anna Fishman:Like 2,000.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:Nobody sees it, nobody sees it, and I laugh because the same thing with the glamorous like I had to take a trip last Thursday, you know. The flight was at 9. I think I got up at 2 30, because I had to chop chicken for my dog, for the caretaker that was going to, you know. I had to make sure the laundry was put away. My daughter had her cheer stuff. I had to make sure bags were packed, that my mother had everything she needed. Who was going to watch my kid for 2 days like it was. It's not. It's not glamour, it's glamorous. Maybe when you get there, and maybe when you figure out all the behind the scenes. But again, that's the difference of saying, Yeah, okay, I'm going to make myself a list. This is not going to be a fun day of a travel day getting up at 2 30, for you know, and it's not. But this is what this is, what it takes. So I think, no matter what you see on anybody's. You know. Instagram, real like, you know, look further. because and also, maybe, it is easy for some people that's great. That's awesome. Some people have a hundred 1,000 hands, and at their demand and have help. If that's not you. It doesn't mean that you still can't do it.
Anna Fishman:100%. I can't. I can't agree more like I. People ask me like, Oh, you know, you probably have, like, you probably don't have kids. So you probably have kids that are older. I'm like, my kids are 3 and 9. And I launched my small group trips when I was pregnant. So no. I am lucky that I have a very supporting husband who like helps me, and like, understands that for me travel is oxygen, so like if I don't travel, I'm just gonna like lose my mind. So he is like pulling extra weight during those weeks that I'm gone. And then when I'm back, like I'm you know, we we give and get, I guess. But I wanted to put you on the spot for a second, you know. as a single mom like. So as single mom, there are 2 ways of traveling. There's a traveling with your kid when you have to change your own, not your own. Change the kids diaper, but on your own in the airplane bathroom, where it's like you can't even breathe right.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:Yeah.
Anna Fishman:Or when you're traveling by yourself, you have to figure out childcare like, do you have any tips, hacks, or like? How do you make this work.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:It's hard, because, you know, not only am I, you know, pretty much a single mom divorced with you know her dad, who has also a very busy schedule, and is not always available to to take her when when needed. So it's like the double whammy. You know. I actually feel feel sometimes like like that total solo. you know, person that doesn't. But I ask for help. I'm really fortunate and account my blessings. I have an amazing mother, and she lives close to me, and you know we're extremely close, so she's always available on hand to help me not to take advantage of it. But to just you know, I really value her, and I respect her time not to abuse it, you know, to ask for it when I really need it, and you have to ask for help where I mean, I have wonderful friends that do carpools with me, with my daughter's insane activities, and then I do more driving, and the times that I'm home to make up for it. You have to just find out who's around you that can help. And then also figure out what else you can outsource, and that's I'm a huge part of that, or proponent of that, rather like I have a dog. It's crazy to start with a dog at this stage of my life. My daughter just turned 16. She's going to go away, and it's going to be me and my dog, but I think I have to get a great place that takes some people I can trust. If I need some help in the house while I'm gone I have to. I have to pay for it, but I have to make sure that I get it. If the dog has to stay home. I may sure I get someone in my house to watch the dog. I make sure I'm you know, like someone is there for my daughter, if need be, I think, even when she was younger sometimes my mother couldn't do everything, so I'd have to get a babysitter. I could trust to drive her, you know, and that kind of thing I mean. I it can be done. But sometimes it's costly, too. That's the thing. But if if outsourcing things are going to make things easier on you. Then I believe that that's what you should do, you know. And you have to have your house cleaned, you know, because, you know, we have a cleaning lady because you want to get back and spend quality time with your kid, and you just don't have time to do XY, and Z. If the budget allows. I say, you know, look and see what you can do. Use Instacart, if you can't get to the grocery store to stock up before you go. You have to do all of those things in order to, you know, to make your schedule work, and it's I mean stuff does cost, but that's the opportunity cost. I say.
Anna Fishman:Yeah. Now, I'm glad you brought this up, because we, as women like, we need to be super women. We need to do everything, everything on our own. God forbid somebody else does it? Oh, I don't like how she cleans. I'm gonna clean like I I had to. I also had to like, you know. Let go of this mentality, I'm like, what do you mean? Somebody's gonna like, come into my house and make me food or like, who am I, Oprah, like I can't do that like what? What is this but like when you actually look at how much dinner out costs, and how much a person that comes and helps me prep meals cost, and the time that she saves, and the mental load that she takes off my plate. Oh, my God, it costs like less than 2 dinners out it like it makes sense for me.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:Nobody ever analyzes. What do you spend like? If you have a teenager, you are going to Starbucks multiple times a week like. And that adds up. Think about the stuff that you're spending now for me. If, like, I order my food on Instacart 3 HI don't have to spend door to door, doing the groceries, getting them back home all of this stuff, you know, and spending a lot less money because I can kind of pick and choose. I'm not there like oh, let me get this. Let me get that. It does wind up, you know. I'll pay the $7 delivery fee, because it probably saves myself, you know, $100 in in miscellaneous things. So I think managing and using, you know, technology and using services, even though they? Oh, it's too much money. Don't do this. It really helps in the long run.
Anna Fishman:Oh, yeah, like, I've learned, like, in the last year or so, like, I've leaned in into that as well like this morning. For example, I knew today was my morning to go grocery shopping because I needed to get food. And then I was like, Okay, but I'm talking to Gabby and then wait. I need to wash my hair, and I really don't want to wake up at 5 Am. To wash my hair before kids are up. Instacart, and like I, I only use Instacart for, like Costco once a month, because I don't want to log like all the toilet paper and everything I was like. But I can actually order for, like the stop and shop, the the 12 things that I need that I'm like, just like like we're in such a like tunnel every day of our everyday life that, like the simple things don't just like, don't pop at us, and we're like.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:They don't. Can I share one hack? And this is for single mom, because I am like, I mean, I probably shouldn't be telling everybody this. But I was at a trade show this weekend, and you know, like sometimes, or even like, when you're as a single mom or a woman, you're taking a trip. What do I wear? And you know a lot of this sounds ridiculous, but you have met them a lot of women that say, I wouldn't even know where to start to pack. I don't have clothes to go on vacation. I don't have this. I don't have that so met this girl. and we're talking about outfits and trade shows and things like that. And she travels a lot, and she's like, I use the real real. I'm like or whatever. No, whatever it is, I I don't even remember so what ready to wear. i 1 of those, I'm probably getting it wrong rent the one way. Sorry rent the one way.
Anna Fishman:Okay.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:And she orders 5 outfits. And you, basically, they come overnight so they could even arrive at your hotel. So this is great for women who are traveling and want to be Glam, but they don't have glam clothes to travel, and you wear those outfits, and then you put them in a bag, and you mail them back when you're done. So.
Anna Fishman:I'm like.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:Your outfits are planned, you have them shipped to your house or your hotel. You don't even have to clean them, and you mail them back. So again another hack, for, like a busy woman like a single mom that says, I want to treat myself to a trip. But I don't have this. I don't have that. I can't get ready. I can't pack. That's a service you could use where your clothes are bought for you, and then you send it back because you're a mom, and you're never going to wear that dress again, or whatever you know, like, whatever your mindset is. But yeah, I thought that was an incredible hack, too. So there's all sorts of things. You can employ that to to make your life easier if you're going to be traveling.
Anna Fishman:Yeah, and ask for help, like, after that, 17,000 steps. And one day before we went on vacation, and we had an overnight flight to Europe. So with 2 kids, I was dying. I was like, I am never doing this again. So guess what I did next time I arranged for my cleaning lady to come to my house the day after I left, and clean up like I didn't have to do the dishes. I didn't have favorite. My least favorite, most hated thing to do is like to take all the shit out of the fridge before we leave, because I don't wanna, and I'm like, I don't want to throw it away. Do I give it to the neighbor? This is weird, like, I go into this analysis for hours about like 2 apples like. I don't know what to do with that.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:The waste. I know.
Anna Fishman:But it's okay now. But then, like, when we come back, it's not gonna be okay. I called her, and luckily I trust her to give her, like, you know, access to my house. And then, when I came home, like everything was clean, the fridge was clean like Costco came like 2 h later, and I was like, Oh, my God! Like, it's all about planning and preparation. And it's a lot of invisible work, because my kids are like, Oh, we left from the mess. I'm like, Yeah, mom took care of that. Maybe Mom wasn't there to do it. But like Mom made sure this happened. But it's okay. So I tell myself, okay, I'll be an opera for a day, and I'll have someone come and clean and cook for me.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:And I mean, like, everybody needs a job. So that person that you're employing also needs a job. So it's it's, you know, you're you're paying for a service. and that person is very willing to do the service like like Uber. I don't know how we survived with that, like, you know. Go to the airport Park this and that, make it easier on yourself like do the cost, analysis and uber back and forth is probably going to cost you less than airport parking. So I think when people say, you know I can't, I can't do this. It's too expensive. I can't do that. There, there's a route for everything there's there's a like a an answer, and I think it's more of a mindset, because that you know those people that you know they talk to you about their problems, and not that you have answers, but you have good suggestions, and I'm guilty of this. Sometimes people give me suggestions. And I'm like, I just want to wow about it for a little, but I'll still. I'll still solve it. But there are some people that will never. never take that route. And there's like you said, there's always a block, and there's always a reason. That's the person that that won't do it. you know, that's okay. But for every one of those there's there's a person that will figure it out.
Anna Fishman:Yeah, absolutely. It's if there's a I keep butchering this phrase, if there is a will, there is a way. If you really want something to happen. I did a simple math. I'm like, Okay, if I put away 20 bucks like if I automatically from my bank account every day 20 bucks goes to a different account. I'm not going to like. Get a fancy salad. I'll make my own salad, and I'm not going to get a coffee. I'll make a coffee. 20 bucks a day. That's $7,300 a year. You can go on a really sweet vacation like. But if if it's just like if it's just you right, you can even go with your kids on the vacation. Maybe it's a shorter trip. Maybe it's not as Lux, but it's doable, like so many people out there. Waste $20 a day on something silly on Amazon, or another coffee or another donut, or something like, if you want like, when I and Starbucks, seeing how much that coffee cost, I'm like, I would rather drink half price coffee in Italy that tastes 3 times better like I'll I'll save this. I'm not going to spend $7 on a latte, or whatever like I can make my own at home. I have plenty of tea and coffee like I can wait for 2 min like it's okay. I don't have to do it through the drive through. It's all in our heads, and we create our own limiting beliefs. We create our own things like that. Give us excuses like why we can't do something. We should start thinking of why we can do this something like what is one reason that you can go to Italy versus? I mean, I could keep talking about Italy, because I love Italy so much. Yeah.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:Okay. I don't mind.
Anna Fishman:Maybe it's Greece. Maybe it's Croatia. Maybe it's Iceland, whatever that may be for you. But if you want something to really happen like you have to put a plan in action. Otherwise it's just like it's not going to happen.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:But also thinking bigger. I have a lot of people that say, Oh, like, because I'll talk to like, you know, just people around town. So oh, I wish I could go to Greece. Yeah, we're we're just going to do this this time, or we're just going to do a cruise, or we're just going to do, you know, or I hate when they say we're just going to do Disney. I'm like. How much are you spending at the end of the day versus probably being Greece, or when people you and I are from Jersey, people go down the shore. It's ridiculous money to spend money for a shore house for a week, and you know, and all the food and all the boardwalk costs, and all the games the kids want to play, you know, and then they're like, Well, I wish I could go to Portugal. Do do the analysis, and I bet you you could. You know, I think it's just that they don't think that it's in the stars for them, you know, or it's the one day thing, and you know, and that's when people like you come into play, because I think when you speak to somebody who actually puts it together, that's the other thing. They won't take the step. Yeah, but like, maybe somebody hovering around it won't talk to a travel planner, because then it becomes like a little more real. and then then they get nervous. Oh, wow! Look! She delivered this, and it's going to cost me less than going down the shore. Wow! What do I do now, you know, and then they're at another crossroads.
Anna Fishman:Yeah, people say, like, Oh, you're so lucky, you know. You get to travel abroad. I can't afford to travel in us like it's so much more expensive, like a weekend to Boston is as much as a flight to Paris. I'm like, maybe I'll go to Paris.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:Believe me, I know that's the thing, and I think you might as well, you know, spend your money otherwise. But I think also, like. Women are also afraid to travel because they're guilty like. They don't want to leave their kids. They don't. And you have to think about it, too. This isn't what you're doing all the time. If you want to treat yourself to a trip, say, you've been through a nasty divorce, or you, I don't know you quit smoking, or whatever you did, you know, and like you want to, you know, to reward yourself. It's okay, you know. I wouldn't say make it a habit where you're gone weeks at a time, you know, like I have a rule. I never. I've never gone more than like 4 or 5 days for forever. You know I just I can't, because it's just my situation. But whatever your rule is, and it's not that you're going to be doing it all the time. Your kid will be okay. And guess what. When your kid starts to get super busy, they're not going to be home for you. It's okay that you take a few days and and nurture yourself, because everything will be okay. Nothing will fall off the track. Nothing can go that wrong. Well, God forbid! But really, I mean they can go wrong at any time. But just because you're gone for a few days doesn't mean you're less bonded to your kid doesn't mean you're any less of a super, mom. It doesn't mean anything. It's okay. You know, it just means that this is what you you did for yourself for a couple of days out of the thousands of hours you spend doing for everybody else.
Anna Fishman:And also I'm going to butcher another saying, distance makes heart go go fonder right. Go fonder.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:Yeah, yeah.
Anna Fishman:When we're like in this tunnel of like with our kids like they don't get to miss us. We don't get to miss them. Our partners like, maybe you don't have to be married, but you may be like in the relationship, like nice to be away for a little bit right like you come back with fresh eyes like you come back, and you like appreciate each other more like you.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:No.
Anna Fishman:My husband learned to cook when I started traveling. He's not like a chef, but he makes like his signature omelets. He's like he has his favorite skillet. And now kids want him to make breakfast, and not me. And I'm like, Oh, my God! I should go away more often. Maybe he'll learn how to make something out, but I would never, because I'm old, like I'm always the one who cooks in the house like he doesn't cook so like. I never even give him an opportunity. I never asked him if he wanted to learn. But he's like, Are you in the kitchen like? Why would I be bothering, you know, like. and I'm like, Oh, like, what else do you know how to do like while I'm away?
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:We can do it. And that's and you're exactly right about the distance. I mean, like, I am in a very great relationship. We've been together for quite some time, but I think you know one of the secrets is we? We don't see each other every day, you know, and and we do value the time when we see each other, when we're hanging out or when we travel it, just it means a lot more. And it's okay. You know what I mean like we have time to catch up with each other, you know. There's no, there's no, never like a routine which you know for me does help a lot, too. Yeah.
Anna Fishman:That's amazing. Like it's it's all about figuring it out how it can make work for you. Maybe something that works for you wouldn't work for me or for someone else. But I hope that whoever listens to this conversation will take away at least a tiny bit of inspiration that, like it's possible you can travel with a family without a family. You can travel as a mom alone. You can travel as a mom with kids. I know you've taken your daughter. Didn't you take her on safari when she was like 5 or 6? Something like that?
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:Like super. I took her to South Africa when she was 3 months old, because I had to go to work. So it's like, okay, figure like, how are we going to do this? How are you? I was married at the time it was different, but I mean, the bassinet goes in the plane, you know, and that's what happens. And they they help you and anybody with a baby. You're traveling. Someone's going to try to help you. So it's okay. But I think it's more like you have to have kids adapt to your lifestyle as much as you adapt to theirs. And I think they grow up doing something great. But you'll also be surprised that when you're traveling solo and you're with a kid. Not that you want strangers to help, you know it sounds creepy, but you know, but like I remember going to the Acropolis with a stroller. What what an insane thing to do, you know, like absolutely insane. How am I going to do this? But people helped climb up the steps. I didn't go super far, you know, but people will will see you and try to to see what they can do for you. You know, and you have to go by Vibe. If you feel good about that. Then, you know. Then go with it. If you don't feel good, you know, you know. Do the gut check? Yeah. All this stuff I know people always get they get crazy about it. But you know, those things that put you in a crazy position are the things that teach you like, yeah, I got this. It's gonna be fine.
Anna Fishman:You know, on my last flight, not on my last, on my one of my previous flights. This year there was a woman next to me with the baby that was crying. We were in business, so we had like quite a bit of separation, but it was right next to me, and there was an overnight flight to London, and the poor baby was crying and crying, and I felt so bad I was like, you know what I'm gonna like maybe go offer it to take the baby. But her husband was thinking premium economy like the 1st row. So they kept like going between, like the business. And so, for, like I had that inclination. People make it work right like they couldn't afford 4 business seats, or whatever like they. They made it work so they could like take turns. So I wanted to offer to take the baby I was like, is she gonna think I'm crazy like I'm a stranger. And then I remembered I was like, Oh, my God! What am I doing? I'm on the plane without my kids for a change. I don't have to do anything I'm like. Oh, no, no, no. I'm going to watch my movie because I never get to do this.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:I know, but even so, she probably wouldn't have taken you up on it, you know. But but I think it. I get it like sometimes like you, just just to have that time. People like, what do you do when you fly? It must be like, I'm like sleep, which I don't normally. Do you know, even though my daughter's older, I just you're up later. You're doing things you're running them around, you know. Read which I don't get a chance to do and catch up on movies. Yeah. and work in uninterrupted.
Anna Fishman:I never get Wi-fi, because it's like one place in the world where I cannot, can be like disconnected, not be interrupted by all the messages and Whatsapps and everything. And I can actually like I do my quarterly planning when I fly like. That's why.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:I know, like that cloud of quiet, and just like nobody's bothering me. If I want to get up I can. There's no laundry in the thing that I have to turn over. There's no, there's no pot boiling. It's amazing. And I think, like you can be. I've always said this a better mom. when you are able to like, you know. Just step away for a second. If you have the resources like, I'm not financial talking about like help, and you have the peace of mind that your kids are being taken care of. Some people don't have that. I get that. You know some people are truly, you know, without without a family or without a close circle, it happens. you know, but I mean, if you do have that, then step away, even for a little bit, you know, and you'll come back a little bit, you know. Refreshed.
Anna Fishman:And if you have financial resources like, don't feel guilty to use them, and to spend the money like so many people say, like, oh, you know, like I can't spend all this money on vacation just for me, like I'm going to take my kid to Disney and spend 10 grand on the Disney trip. I'm like, maybe you need to spend all this money just on you. 5, 7 whatever days, however many, maybe maybe just an overnight trip right like. Sometimes I feel like I just want to take my husband and just go away for 24 h, just like away from the madness at home. We don't always get to do that. But like, if you have that financial opportunity to do that like money is not evil. Money gives you opportunities to do things. Money gives you opportunities to like to live your life, and we work so hard like. Don't feel guilty for spending that money like I feel like that's not a lesson we need to teach women that like feel guilty for doing that.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:You're so right? Because we say, Okay, it has to be used for other things. I have to think about college. I have to think about with the clothes that my kid needs. Those are all going to get done. You will do that, you know everybody. I'm in the throes of college planning right now. And I can say, always worried about that like, what am I going to do? Everybody else figures it out. I'm pretty sure I will, too. Yeah, I'm no more special than anybody else like, you know. Everybody gets the pathway, and they figure out how to do it. I will. I will as well, but I don't think anything I would have done in my life differently, still would have had prepared me for what college is going to cost, you know I could have just done nothing for my life, and worried about, and then and then spent all money on something. You know what I mean that's going to get paid for, anyway, in some way.
Anna Fishman:Yeah.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:It's not. It's not a choice one or the other.
Anna Fishman:Well, Gabby, this has been a really nice conversation. Thank you so much for taking the time before I let you go. I'm curious. What is the next hot destination that you're planning to go like? What are you? Or maybe you're dreaming, and maybe you're planning something like what's what's on your schedule, and don't tell me nothing, because I know there is something going on.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:I promise. Well, actually, in 2 weeks I'm I'm doing a very quick jaunt to Tokyo with my daughter so literally like, Leave Wednesday. Come back Sunday, so I'm excited she's never been. So that's going to be a pretty high energy. And then I have a bit of a milestone birthday next year. So I got to do something interesting. There's been like 2 places on my extreme book, actually 3. So I have to pick one of them. I'll tell you what they are. They are Antarctica. Easter Island. and the base camp of Mount Everest. So I don't know what's gonna happen. But those are, you know it's it's gonna be a half a century that that I'd be celebrating. So let's see, gotta think about time one of them will happen. I don't. I don't know which.
Anna Fishman:See. And this is why you're on my podcast. Because for my milestone birthday next year, I'm like, maybe I'll go to Mexico with my girlfriends, and that would be.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:Know you. There's no Mexico in that feature. No, no, no! Know who I'm talking to. I know who I'm talking to.
Anna Fishman:And here I am with my limiting beliefs. Oh, if it was up to me! No, honestly like I was talking to my girlfriend, and we started with like, very crazy. And then we kind of I was like, you know what I think. If we can get away for 3 days and just lay on the beach with Margaritas. It would be fabulous. I think we finally got on the same page. That that's what we need, because everybody's just so busy and with little kids, I'm like, you know, we'll do Mount Everest and Iceland and everything like a little bit later. But like for this.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:He will just like.
Anna Fishman:You know, lay on the beach, drink up, go dancing, maybe one night, and like call it a day.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:Sounds good, so that sounds like an equally as good time. Honestly.
Anna Fishman:Wait to to follow you on on your amazing adventure next year. I'm sure it's going to be super super exciting, Gabby. If anybody wants. Who's watching this wants to hear more from you? Or can you tell us where they can find you? Where do you hang out online.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:Yeah, I'm I'm like, I'm so old school. I'm a Facebooker, and then on Instagram you can find me at the Explorator.
Anna Fishman:Awesome. We'll put the links in the show notes. Thank you so much for your time and thanks for your inspiration. Have a good rest of your day.
GABRIELLA RIBEIRO:You too.